accumove 3 issues

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DanGeorgian

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Hey ive got an accumove 3 controller. i can manually move the head around. however, when i toggle the torch it burries into the plate and stops (with or without the ohmic cap on) it notices tip contact but doesnt seem to care. i got it to start an arc last week but it just started the hole then gave up. now its not even trying. and the button to "run Job" is not illuminated (clickable). i have the speed and line test loaded, just cant click run. (wether in dry or active) any help would be greatly appreciated. or if anyone knows someone in the phx az area that would be able to come help me out. idk if theres a way to set "deck height" or something like that is probably all i need. bottomed out (below deck height) it reads 3.??? inches, at the top it reads 10.??? inches. but i set the lift height and the "arc start" height and it doesnt pay any attention to what i put in. (there is also a rumor that someone may have compromised the machine, i think its just paranoia but maybe someone went in and changed a bunch of setting in it? it is not attached to a "lincoln" table its just a generic c&c table. tech support helped me get it set up so it recognizes the table its working on. nut now my "z" axis is giving me issues.
 
also, idk how to set the datum. i had it working last week and dumbfucks turned everything off. so now it wont go to its corner but when i click datum it just retracts the torch to max and keeps trying to go until i click stop.
 
First we will need to determine if you table is properly grounded. Sounds like you either have a TMX or a TM Classic table that has limit switches. Both the VFC and the Accumove 3 box should have its own ground cable connected to a location on the table, from that location you will have another ground cable connected to your ground rod. You will need to test the ground location on the table with a multi-meter, check for continuity between the ground on the table to one of your slats and to your material. If no continuity at your slats then you can run a 10 gauge ground wire from the ground on your table to one of your slats and then check for continuity again.

To test the ohmic circuit, login as Admin (password 1234) click on Machine Settings then Advanced Tab and click on the button Relay Output Off to turn relay On. Then you should be able to jog the torch down to the material and see if the Ohmic Detected light at bottom right corner of the screen turns on, if not ensure the ohmic clip on Machine Torch is contacting the shield cup. Still having problems with Relay still On you can jump from the ohmic clip to your ground location on side of table, if ok there you can then jump to one of your slats and then to your material, to see where the disconnect is occurring.

All of this does you no good if you do not have a separate relay box or you do not have the VFC box with built in Relay (has a 3rd hard wired cable coming from the side of the VFC box).

You may also need to reload your configuration to get the limit switches configured. On Machine Settings click on Load Configuration and choose the TM 2 (do not click the box), press Ok and then Load Configuration again and choose your correct Configuration based on your table (leave box unchecked) and press Ok then press Factory Reset and restart the software. Try your Datum again after reconnects and see if it seeks the lower left corner of the table.
 
idk if it matters for anything specifically but my table is 8'x4', and it DOES have the VFC box. (not 100 percent sure whoever set it up connected everything properly but im assuming they did). ok so 1. i explained to the support guy my table setup and he told me it sounds like the "classic" so thats what i had configured into it. 2. it does not have limiting buttons or stops of any kind. (not desireable i know but ill get to that once its opertional.) 3. had shitty contact for the "slat" ground so ran a new wire there. all is well with the grounds (per your advice (thx btw)). 4. the O/C is now sensing the material surface. however is still just burrying the tip and wont strike an arc (in manual toggle mode) . 5 tried rebooting the box, now the datum is set for center of table on y and the bottom edge of table for x. and still is retracting the torch beyond its capabilities. 6. tried loading the "rosetta" design (idk if thats a pre load or someone elses design) but i still dont have the option to "run job" clickable.
 
A TM Classic table has a cassette on both sides of the table that run on V bearings, having a horizontal cassette that rides up and down the rail on the right side of the gantry and a vertical cassette on the left side of the gantry. Also having red rubber bump stops at the the ends of its travel. After pressing the Datum button a Classic table will jog itself into the limit switches to define the machine envelope. All of our Accumove tables have a VFC box, with the newest VFC having a relay built in, definable by having a cable coming out of the side of the box through a bulkhead connector. Other wise the VFC ohmic wire should be connected to an external Accumove Relay box.

The relay will turn on and off automatically when you Toggle the Tool 1 in the Tool Library Menu, where the lifter station should drop down and detect the material, if you have Active Run selected they torch would then strike and arc and pierce the material at Pierce Height defined under AVHC settings. Under Job Setup for this to happen you would turn Ohmic Detection to On, here you can also change retract mode to Partial and jog the Z axis down from the top of its travel to where you would like to define its Partial Retract Position and press Set.

When you say retracting the torch beyond its capabilities, this I am not understanding. To define the top of the Z axis travel, jog the Z axis up till it tops out then you can press Reset Z, the Machine Position for Z will change to zero. After doing this if you if you need to jog Z up be mindful of the slider bar showing the Z travel that you do not jog it past zero, if yo do you need to hit Reset Z again.

The better test file to use is the Simple Test Cut 100 ipm, where it cuts a square with a round hole, have the AVHC set to Auto with the Sample Voltage also selected, adjusting the slider bar at bottom of screen to define the feedrate based on the cut charts in the plasma cutter manual.
 
it maxes out the z. as in it brings the torch all the way up, and even when the torch cant move anymore, its still trying to move it up until i click stop. i understand operations. ive watched the videos. i am not understanding how to get it set up. i am not having any luck setting the datum, or getting it to recognize the table a certain way, as in it does not recognize the table per the perameters because i tried manually sending it to the opposite (from the datum) corner and it would have launched itsself off the table (the wrong direction) had the torch not hit the track. and when i go to the point where the datum should be it tells me "exceeding x or y axes" "please datum machines axes" (which it wont respond to.) heres pix.
 

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You have a TM 2 table and you should be using that configuration not TM Classic, go to Machine Settings, click Load Configuration and choose the TM 2 table, do not check the box. Once back to Machine Settings you can change the limits of the table setting Axis 1 Max Limit to 48 and Axis 2 and 4 Max Limit to 96 if not already.
 
here i have the speed test loaded, and cannot select "run job" and for some reason (idk if its hindering anything but) my arc voltage is jumping between 1 and 123456..... so the table recognizes 0.0x0.0 as the correct corner. still trying to overextend z when i hit datum. and sees table perameters as not on the table.
 

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Tells me you have not loaded the TM2 configuration yet. Also in your pictures you do not have a Ohmic Relay as the bottom right port of the 4 round cables is empty, you also do not have your plasma arc start wires in the correct location, should be plugged into port 1. Until we get you the correct relay you will need to remove the orange wire from the ohmic clip on the machine torch and zip tie it up out of the way. You are also using an older version of the software, uninstall this version and delete the folder c:\torchmate controller data. After uninstalling and removing that folder you can download and install the latest version from our website, click on support, driver software, download and look for Visual Machine Designer link.

Note: the newest version of the VMD software the operating system needs to be 64 bit. After installing the software Login as Admin, then Machine Settings and Load the TM 2 Configuration, you can Datum the machine at the lower left corner of your table with the Z axis at the top of its travel, then you can jog the torch to your material and press Set Program Zero. On the Job Setup menu you can jog the Z axis down till it is just touching the material and press Set next to Top of Material, turn Ohmic Off, press Ok and you can then press Go to Program Zero to raise the Z back up to its zero position.
 
ok so i have the table working. the ohmic sensing was causing it to keep touching the plate. so i turned it to manual and changed the cut height and now she flies. NOW i have created a new thing to cut (in cad cam v9) i have it 100% ready to cut. tool path is is set, but when i click the scissors i get a "no object to cut" message. so now thats where im stuck. i had a premade logo from another guy and i was able to do the scissors thing and it exported fine. but i had to remake it because he messed something up so the final product wasnt what it was supposed to be. and now i get that message. and i was told its under " Roger Shumway"? not sure on the last name spelling. thats who it belongs to. my boss reposesed it from someone else FOR roger under some agreement of production. i cant post a vid on here but if you send me an email or something i can send it to you to see exactly whats going on.
 
I want to make sure you have the ohmic wire tied up out of the way, not connected to the ohmic clip until we send you the new VFC box, will send it to Tempe, AZ.

No object to cut refers to either you have not created a tool path or the tool path is not located within the material. After creating the tool path, drag and drop it into the lower left corner of your material, you will see the two pink snap lines.
 
yes i did not have a work piece set up. thank you. the shop is actually in phoenix is there any way you can send it to my local vern lewis? and idk if you would be sending it under shumway or the business thats using it (JTI Services or Thomasons welding) and whats that going to cost so i can tell bossman? and do you have a link to or a video regarding setting and removing pierce points and specific cut lines?
 
No cost for relay box, it is being shipped to the address on file to Campus Drive, Tempe, AZ 85282. We have an extensive library on Cad Videos located on our website under Support and Torchmate University, there you will also find videos on how to run the VMD software.
 
i was just informed that address on file isnt valid anymore. 4109 W broadway Rd. Phx az 85041 is the new business address. or contact the owner and see where he wants it sent.
 
ok now bossmans saying roger may have used the other guys info to buy it. i know this sounds kinda fishy but im 100% serious. the new owner of the machine is James Thomason with JTI services. his number is 623 694 3475. call him and he can explain the situation as its kind of complicated.
 
god im getting it in both ears from them lol. old fart isnt sure he gave you the right address. they just want me to confirm you have the correct address. 4109 W broadway Rd. Phx az 85041
 
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